Curse

wilebill · Sep 22, 2008, 06:16 AM // 06:16

Well, I don't see as many Rits as I once did. One of the two classes I don't have.

Mesmer, played one for about two years, marginal in PvE with heroes and hench, find it most useful in PvP.

Paragon and Ranger are my mains. The good old days of Paragons are forever gone, but if you happen to have all the skills, you can still put together effective builds.

zwei2stein · Sep 22, 2008, 07:11 AM // 07:11

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

no flame war, i'm just saying that anything a rit can do, another class can do better, thus making it useless.

That is only true if you play straight focused single-role builds.

People tried that in early factions days and indeed they failed at outhealing monk and outdamaging ele. Which is not suprising because Rts were not designed to do that, they were designed to multitask.

But ritualists are kings of hybrids. I'd say caster version of paragon.

Cab Tastic · Sep 22, 2008, 07:37 AM // 07:37

I play a rit quite a bit and I tend to agree for the most part that it a a jack of all trades, master of none class.

However is there anything in the game(under certain conditions) that can generate as much damage as a bow wielding splinter/barrage rit? I think not.

Whirlwind · Sep 22, 2008, 07:57 AM // 07:57

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Originally Posted by StormDragonZ

I have a Mesmer and I actually consider him my 2nd favorite next to my Necromancer.

Still... least popular...

In no particular order:
For males:
- Elementalist
- Paragon
- Ritualist

For females:
- Ranger
- Necromancer
- Ritualist

Ele is one of the BEST classes....

Silicon Based · Sep 22, 2008, 08:00 AM // 08:00

For some solid objective statistics on nearly 60,000 GW players and their characters look here:

http://www.gwchars.de

Here you can seen that out of 58680 characters:

3622 are Ritualist (6.5% of characters)
3382 are Mesmers (6.1%)
2896 are Paragon (5.2%)

BTW the most popular are:
Monk (14.9%)
Warrior (14.1%)
Elementalist (13.9%)

Remember, popularity doesn't mean good or bad character. mesmer, rit and para are just as goos as all other characters, they just require a bit more thinking/learning to appreciate their skills. I could imagine, and this is speculative, that a mojority of the popular classes are played by the younger players, whereas the ones on the bottom of the list are played by mature players. Unfortunately www.gwchars.de doesn't give statistics on the age of the players

Roupe · Sep 22, 2008, 08:20 AM // 08:20

I would say

Mesmers
Ritualist
Assasins

The reason is,
can you think of starting party with having 4 or more of the same of those, and enter a unknown mission or area -in order to beat it?
sorry uw assasin team wouldnt be my choice for beating a new mission/challenge. Even though it is effective.

all the other proffesions I can,

realtalk916 · Sep 22, 2008, 08:35 AM // 08:35

yall are crazy hatin on rits. theyre terrfic supporters. take out the rit in gw, and u can say goodbye to sabway.

though its true that theyre not so common.

mesmers own in pvp. enough said

the rest r pretty common. paragons are good to me, but also a good class thats not common

. i hate dervs, absouletly hate em

Wild Rituals · Sep 22, 2008, 08:39 AM // 08:39

Well i quite like my Rit but its not the best for Pve

other than that
Paragon
Mesmer
and Sin (if farming isnt counted)

Shasgaliel · Sep 22, 2008, 08:44 AM // 08:44

I would say
Ritualits
Dervishes
Paragons

However I am quite surprised with not so many people playing paragons. I think it is much easier to play paragon than for example warrior.

Anime Divine · Sep 22, 2008, 09:07 AM // 09:07

just repeating

mesmers own in pvp

i dislike paragons and dervish.

dervish easily interupted and enchant removal hurts
btw warrior owns them

ritualist best support i would say. the damage dealing is a lil trickier

realtalk916 · Sep 22, 2008, 09:16 AM // 09:16

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

The other problem with rits is that weapons spells can only have one up at a time, and also only 1 spirit. Which means that the utility of the rits is limited, eg if ur elite is spirit light weapon, the other cant really bring weapon of warding because they cancel each other out. Well, not cant its just rather clumsy.

1 of each spirit at a time... still works great.

realtalk916 · Sep 22, 2008, 09:20 AM // 09:20

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Originally Posted by Shasgaliel

I would say
Ritualits
Dervishes
Paragons

However I am quite surprised with not so many people playing paragons. I think it is much easier to play paragon than for example warrior.

when did warriors get hard to play?

fireflyry · Sep 22, 2008, 09:22 AM // 09:22

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Originally Posted by Kagome

I think they are Ritualist, Paragon, and Mesmer.

Agreed.

Pity really.

Played a few times with an offensive rit ages ago and they can blow stuff up.Maxed out channeling being thrown at frontline melee in PvE is teh sex.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luminarus

EDIT: Why the hell do people keep mentioning paragons... those things are among the MOST favoured amongst high ends. Imbagons has IMBA in its name for a reason

I think he's talking popularity man.Imbagon is all good but how many Paragon's do you see running around on a day to day basis?

Trax Reborn · Sep 22, 2008, 09:25 AM // 09:25

So did anyone bother to read the title of the thread? this is least POPULAR, not whats under/overpowered

Lycan Nibbler · Sep 22, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trax Reborn

So did anyone bother to read the title of the thread? this is least POPULAR, not whats under/overpowered

quite true, the responses made me laugh.

Anyway, its quite a simple answer IMHO.

Its perm any 3 of the 4 types from the additional chapters ie Sin, Rit, Derv or Para - basically coz you can only make those if you purchase the specific chapter but can make the original 6 from any chapter.

From personal choice, my least popular is in order:-
War (I hate warriors..lol)
Derv (War with enchants woopee)
Para (just never really get into playing mine)

Shasgaliel · Sep 22, 2008, 09:54 AM // 09:54

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Originally Posted by realtalk916

when did warriors get hard to play?

Where it is written it is hard? Paragons are easier but it does nor mean warriors are not easy. I played 2,7k hours on warrior and 2,5k hours on Paragon and I see the difference...

pamelf · Sep 22, 2008, 10:03 AM // 10:03

Is this personal, or in game as a whole? I'd agree with what most of what the others are saying, but my personal least favourites are assassin, paragon and Dervish.

I LOVE mesmers.

RahlMyron · Sep 22, 2008, 10:07 AM // 10:07

wow i didn't expect to see the ritualist on the bottom of the list. It is one of the only classes i found that can fit most roles quite effectively as far as basic parties are structured.
By far one of the best classes imo, perhaps a bit complex for some i see? But that's cool, we have warriors for you guys

I suppose you're after what the general body think are popular rather then my personal thoughts?

I think paragons are the least popular class, specially when it comes to PvP.
Dervishes can't be overly popular in my eyes, they have a handful of decent builds and over all they do what other classes do better.
And although mesmer is one of my favourite classes, i feel it's not overly popular in the eyes of the masses.

RiKio · Sep 22, 2008, 10:10 AM // 10:10

I hate Dervishes for that WS crap.
I hate sins for that Shadowstep crap.
I hate Paragons for that Irremovable buffs crap.
I have balls of steel.

I love Mesmers.

squiros · Sep 22, 2008, 10:35 AM // 10:35

it really depends on what the word 'popular' means in context. does it mean the most favored or the highest amount? it seems that imbagons while highly favored are very rare. meaning high popularity in one context and low in another. MS/DB sins, SY sins and imbagons are all high level builds you won't find milling about in common areas. they're all out doing elite missions - which is why you never see them (low in populace). but almost every high level team has at least 1, making them quite popular (favored).

mesmers are generally considered a pvp only class.

and ritualist skills are not useless, i think the point is ritualist primaries are useless. for any spirit considerations, necros are better. boon of creation is fine. . . but it's like a ritualist is now a 7 skill necro. furthermore, you have to spec into spawning to make it effective, meaning it's a 7 skill necro with 150 attributes. and then there's the problem that it's creatures you create- whereas soul reaping will glean from what others have created as well. or simply enemies dying. ritualist healing is sufficient in some areas, but it tends to get outhealed in high pressure areas, dependant on several clauses (ie for spirits to be present or holding an item), can't be stacked, no protections etc. ritualist damage isn't much compared to most nuke builds.